Friday, March 11, 2011

China and the Middle East

The Chinese have deployed a vice foreign minister to the Middle East, North Africa and West Africa to assess the security of Chinese energy assets there. Beijing is growing increasingly concerned by the unrest sweeping through the Middle East and the potential impact that will have — not only on oil prices but potentially on Chinese social stability.

Although the fifth-largest oil producer in the world, the Chinese are a major importer of oil as well, consuming more than twice as much as they produce themselves. In 2010, the percent of Chinese oil consumption that they had to import from abroad grew by an additional 50 percent. A large quantity of this oil comes from North Africa and the Middle East and from countries that are considered politically unstable. China currently gets about 3-3.5 percent of its oil from Libya. It’s increased its investment more than 25 percent in 2010 and, as we’ve seen, the Chinese have placed a lot of interest in the future of Libya as a supplier. The Chinese have had to work out the evacuation of more than 30,00 Chinese from the country.

What Beijing is trying to do is to determine both how long energy prices are going to stay high due to the unrest in the Middle East and whether there’s going to be a lasting impact on places that China has been able to sync their own investments in — gain access to more resources themselves.

One of the major issues for Beijing now is that, as energy prices rise, it has a compounding impact on the inflation problem that’s already raging in China. Chinese inflation in 2010 came in at about 3.3 percent. For this year, it’s estimated — prior to these crises — at reaching 4 or 5 percent. Those are the official figures — by many accounts, those figures are far below reality. The real number should be 6-7 percentage points higher. Inflation has long a problem for the Chinese and during periods of extreme inflationary jumps, China has faced significant social challenges as well.

Since the economic opening in 1979, China has had three major spikes in inflation: one in 1985, one in 1988-89 and one between 1993 and 1996. In 1985, inflation ran around 10 percent and the Chinese managed to hold things together socially. In 1988-89, the rising inflation contributed to what ultimately became the Tiananmen Square incident. In 1993-96, Chinese inflation was rapidly rising on the back of the rest of expansion in East Asia and the Chinese really were saved by the collapse of the rest of Asia where Beijing could rein in, it could hold things down domestically and then it could start to grab the export share that had fallen away from many of the Asian economic tigers.

As China watches the unrest and North Africa, they’re also looking cautiously at the so-called “Jasmine” revolution that’s just in its early stages in China. Thus far we haven’t seen very large numbers of demonstrators, but the Chinese security apparatus response suggests that they may be even more concerned about this than perhaps what people see from the outside.

For Beijing, several things come together right now that make this a particularly difficult period. One, you have the higher energy prices coming on top of inflation that already exists. Two, you have this attempt at public demonstrations that spread not only geographically but across socio-economic classes. Three, you have a change in communication strategies where information is able to move faster, its finding ways to circumvent Chinese censorship and it’s drying out people who have very different grievances. The fourth is that China is in a very different stage of its development right now. There really has become a growing middle class, there has been higher expectations given to the Chinese over the past few years — the government to deal with the economic crisis has tried to push domestic consumption, has done so by subsidizing, by giving rebates, by funding, and people are coming to expect more and expect more. These factors are combining at a time where Beijing is also focusing very heavily on the transfer of leadership from Hu Jintao to his successor.

At times like these, social stability becomes a top priority for the government. They want things to hold steady so they can carry out the political transition without any significant problems or impact. STRATFOR is watching very closely how the Chinese manage these different issues as they come at them very quickly. The Chinese government is not known for being able to move very rapidly, particularly at a time like this when they are undergoing a political transition and they’re working up a balance between the various political factions.


STRATFOR.com

35 comments:

  1. A few dozen people out of 1.3 billion do some sort of 'Jasmine' protest - and the Western media tries to whip up a story about it....how pathetic.

    Fact is it seems 87% of Chinese are very happy with the course of the nation (compared with 28% in Egypt before US puppet Mubarak was toppled), according to this Pew research poll:
    http://pewresearch.org/pubs/1945/chinese-may-not-be-ready-for-revolution

    Perhaps you have some data to show the opposite? I very much doubt it.

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  2. I live in China... that's all the evidence you need to know, that if there wasn't such a massive clamp down by the authorities people would genuinely be on the streets asking for a responsible government. Not too much to ask.

    Consider this analogy....

    A group of ants starts to swarm on the floor... someone comes along with a massive boot and stamps on them... a few ants get squished but most of the ants run away, obviously, cus even if you're an ant you don't wanna lose your life.

    The idiot with the big boot then proclaims proudly and confidently...

    "Look there are NO ants!"

    Well, that aint entirely true is it...??? They just weren't stupid, and hid out the way of the big boot...

    Likewise, anyone in an overbearing, authoritarian country that locks down its cities and claims that there is no desire by its people for more rights is like the oaf with the big boots...

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  4. Where is your evidence to substantiate your claim that tons of people would be out on the streets? That is mere conjecture on your part.

    Your analogy is stupid. Because there were not a lot of people who even bothered to come out - they were not 'swarming' the streets.

    And China's cities simply were not in a state of "lockdown" because of this so-called Jasmine thing - that is simply laughable - a few cops turned up to observe a few dozen protesters - out of a population of 1.3 billion.

    Have you any reports that Chinese cities were in a state of 'lock down' over these protests - to back up your ridiculous claim?

    You also fail to address the poll result. 87% of Chinese are happy with the direction of their country. You have anything to say about that?

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  5. firstly, thanks for writing on the blog... appreciate it... :P

    secondly, if there is an 87% approval rate in China, then why does the government fear protests, of what is obviously a tiny minority...? Any government that truly had 87% approval would be very confident to let the minority speaks... seeing as the CCP clamps down on even the slightest protest, it would seem all is not as it seems...

    thirdly, the analogy is not supposed to suggest that there were protestors swarming like ants in Beijing... instead the analogy highlights the stupidity of the boot-man for proclaiming that there were NO ants, just cus he couldn't see any...

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  6. Because, obviously, it does not take many subversives to throw China into chaos. Especially when abetted by foreign agents.

    China is facing one of the biggest droughts in living history. She has 1.3 billion people to feed and improve the living standards of. That takes priority over everything.

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  7. By the way you are a fucking troublemaker.

    I've notified the relevant authorities of your blog. I'm going to get you hunted down and thrown out of the country. Your Chinese associates are going to get whacked.

    OK you smarmly little fuckface?

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  8. Arh Wayne, and I thought we were friends... ???

    Don't worry, I'll sleep sounder at night knowing people like you are looking after China...!!!!

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  9. Here you go Wayne... have an explore of this site. The link is for overall world rankings, but you can explore every individual ranking of every individual country to your heart's desire...

    http://www.prosperity.com/rankings.aspx

    Notice Zimbabwe coming out dead last, and China having both good and bad points that suggest contradictions - just like I said... hmmmm, funny that?

    Yardy, yah... I know you can can conclude it's just a foreign made system to make China look bad and the West look good, but what you gonna do...? When you turn up late for the party, you can't complain about the leftovers...

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  10. Whoever said wealth corresponded to virtue.

    The West got rich plundering the East and Africa.

    Zimbabwe may be one of the poorest countries in the world - but does poor mean you should be treated as a pariah?

    China in 1949 had 1/90th the industrial base of Belgium on a per capita basis. Now China is the 2nd largest economy in the world. That is pretty good performance.

    China at least has got where it has without invading other countries, without plundering the resources of other countries - unlike the West.

    China was 32% of GDP 200 years ago. After 100 years of plunder by the West we were utterly pauperized. It was only in 1949, that we have started to claw our way back.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPt8ElTQMIg

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  11. I think China's performance is stunning and am really happy for China.... all is needed now is the self-serving CCP to get out of the way and let the Chinese people realize their full global potential without being leached by an unaccountable government... I live here, don't forget, I see the Cadre's driving around in their Porsche Cayenne's thriving off corruption while the average Chinese person, just like the surveys says, works hard for a better future for their families and China.

    As far as the old Imperial argument goes... the day China just drops that and gets on with it will be a great day for China...

    A "Hundred years of plunder" only really exists in CCP history books...

    By the time the British arrived China was so weak from being plundered by its own unaccountable government that it was a push over for a few hundred British soldiers to take Canton and Hong Kong and pretty much the whole of southern China.

    Imperialism didn't make China weak - unaccountable government made China weak...

    Ask yourself, how is it, that a handful of soldiers 10,000 miles from home could fight a war and win over a nation of 400,000,000 ??????

    Cus China had been eaten from the inside out by its own self-serving corrupt, unaccountable government

    It was foreigners who finally helped the Qing quell the Tai Ping Rebellion.

    It was Britain and Germany that provided China with the best ships money could by at the time for the Sino/Japanese war... only to be sunk by incompetent government.

    Ask yourself, why, in 1900, a handful of foreigners could march on Beijing.. ? Because it was so corrupt that no one was willing to fight for their government. China wasn't weak from foreigners forcing trade on her, China was weak from corrupt government, refusing to enter into the modern world of the 19th & 20thC

    Why could a tiny country like Japan invade China so easily in WW2.. ? I'll tell ya.... Corrupt authoritarian government!

    Why in 1950, did China suffer the worst famine in the history of the world... I'll tell ya... corrupt authoritarian government!

    When people say to me... "China under the CCP has had 30 years of prosperity." My answer is, "Well why haven't they had 60years?"

    Oh, that's because for the first 30years the CCP was too busy terrorizing its own population, that's why....

    I know you're not gonna believe anything I say.. but it doesn't matter... the history is out there ... read as much of it as you can, from every side and angle, then decide for yourself what you think is the truth....

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  13. Look at this map of corruption perceptions index: China is bad - no doubt about it.

    But Brazil (democracy) is only slightly better. India (democracy) is just as bad. Indonesia (democracy) is worse, Phillipines (democracy) is worse, Mongolia (democracy) is worse, Argentina (democracy) is significantly worse, and Russia (has elections at least) is much more worse.

    http://www.transparency.org/policy_research/surveys_indices/cpi/2010/results


    So it seems from the empirical evidence that 'democracy' in the Western sense does little to reduce corruption.

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  14. As for the rest of your ridiculous post, you do nothing to deny the fact that the West plundered China.

    Yes. China was at fault. But in the way that someone who leaves his house unlocked is at fault for being burgled. That is negligence. And that is not a punishable offense when the victim is oneself.

    But the criminal culpability surely lies with the thief, and in the same way the West is criminally culpable for their plunder of China for a period of over 100 years.

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  15. Oh, that's because for the first 30years the CCP was too busy terrorizing its own population, that's why

    Absolute BS. Under Mao, life expectancy almost doubled (33 to 65 in 1976), and literacy improved from 20% in 1949 to about 67% in 1980 (a few years after Mao's death...but then his policies were in place up to about that time).

    Mao united China, defeated the US in Korea, and made China independent.

    He laid the foundations for China's future economic miracle under Deng.

    And in any case China's economic growth under Mao was better than that of Western and Eastern Europe, South Asia and Africa over the same period.

    Here is economic growth of China compared with India since 1950:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:China_india_gdp.jpg

    China was poorer than 'demcratic' India in 1950. Now she is about 2.5 times richer than India.

    Again. It seems 'democracy' has little to do with improving a country's economy.

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  16. Yah... keep blaming Imperialism for all your woes... that'll solves everything...

    Mao killed millions of people whereas imperialism killed thousands

    Mao under the CCP turned the entire nation inside out, destroyed 1000s years of culture - whereas Imperialism destruction was tiny comparatively.. admittedly, sacking the Forbidden City and and the Summer Palace was shameful... but under Mao, 1000s of temples and places of real Chinese culture in China were sacked by its own people... !!!

    Even in Nanjing, the Japanese slaughtered 300,000 people, yet when the communist surrounded and starved the city of Changchun easily an equal amount of civilians starved to death as a deliberate way to take the city... go read your history...

    In the Great Leap Forward 30,000,000 people starved to death due to communist stupid policies -- Peng Dehui, was purged for raising concern about the deaths... hero of Korea

    Imperialism did bad things... but blaming it for all China's woes is a joke... Imperialism was like zits on the skin of China, embarrassing and sometimes painful... but the destruction that has been inflicted upon the Chinese people under the name of communism is truly, truly shameful...

    Go pick up a history book that wasn't written by the self-serving CCP.. there's heaps of them...

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  18. Tell me.

    What was the average annual mortality during the GLF - even as claimed by Jung Chang?

    I doubt that you know, so here is what she says:

    "death rates in the four years 1958-61 were 1.20 per cent, 1.45 per cent, 4.34 per cent and 2.83 per cent, respectively"
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    – Jung Chang, MAO: THE UNKNOWN STORY, p. 438.

    Average mortality claimed by Jung Chang during GLF is thus (1.2 + 1.45 + 4.34 + 2.38) / 4 = 2.34% death rate (or 23.4 deaths per 1000).

    So Jung Chang claims 23.4/1000 deaths during the GLF.

    23.4./1000 is practically the same as mortality in India and Indonesia at the time.
    http://tinyurl.com/2crqsxx

    23.4/1000 was a lot less than 38/1000 (Judith Bannister) in pre-revoultionary China, 32/1000 in pre-revolutionary Russia, and 28/1000 in India just before independence.

    Your figures for Japanese killings of Chinese only include deliberate killings. What about all the deaths which occurred as a result of Japanese invasion - the collateral damage, the retardation of China’s development? And we could no doubt say the same for a century of Western imperialism. The excess deaths from the opium trade would surely be just as horrendous. And this can be seen in the terrible mortality statistics of the time.

    As you count ‘excess’ deaths due to Maoist policies as murder, then you should do the same for Japanese imperialism. If you were to do so the numbers would be absolutely astronomical and dwarf even the so-called 40 to 70 million purportedly ‘murdered’ by Mao.

    Now tell me genius. Where does Chang get her 36 million or whatever GLF famine deaths from?

    Do the maths here (approx figures will do). And if you can't do the simple calculations and see the glaring flaw behind them, I will have serious doubts concerning your intelligence.

    Wayne

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  19. Firstly, I aint citing Jung Chang... you are... there's plenty of academic books out there that research the Great Leap Forward other than Jung Chang's, so why you think she is the definitive voice on the Great leap Forward is beyond me...

    BUT.... are you denying that the CCP didn't instigate a policy of communization that saw people taken off the land to run home furnaces, that made crap, pig-iron which was useless... which led to the collapse of the agricultural system and mass starvation on an epic scale?
    Are you denying that Peng Dehui wasn't purged for raising concerns about it?

    Are you denying that the Cultural Revolution didn't systematically destroy thousands of years of heritage in in China?

    I'm saying that the whole Great Leap Forward and the Cultural Revolution are CCP instigated policies that brought utter calamity upon the people of China and the CCP will continue to exaggerate imperialism in order to hide its own shameful part in history.

    Your entire understanding of history is skewed.... no one is denying that imperialism didn't commit atrocities.... but exaggerating these and blindly ignoring the devastation that the CCP reaped upon the people of China makes you come across one dimensional....

    You're like a doctor that is complaining about the patients acne, when the real problem is cancer...

    You have a wild belief in how many people could have possibly been killed from Japan or Opium, but are not willing to accept that the CCPs early policies were far more destructive than both Opium and the Japanese ever were.... again, the Japanese and Opium were like rashes on the skin of China... but the CCP wreaked havoc on the entire body of the Chinese nation.

    Look what has made China strong and rich now... Introduction of international business practices, changing state own enterprises into MNCs, FDI, Free Trade Zones and international business standards.. all the stuff Imperialism, and namely the British tried to force on China in 1840.... Funny that the very things that China rejected back then have made it powerful now.

    And to answer your house analogy... when they entered the house they found that is was empty, half falling down and derelict.. the family was starving having been exploited for generations by their selfish landlord... who had spent all the riches on himself... there was practically nothing to plunder... except of course from the rich landlord... but what the foreigners did see was China's fantastic potential.. they knew, even back then in the 1830s, that China could become the engine of the world economy.. that's why they went to war to force western trading practices upon the Qing.... no one doubted for a second that an urbanized Chinese economy wouldn't be the biggest in the world....
    The British went to war over Free Trade, not opium... go read your history... the Chinese side then repackaged that into Opium to serve their own needs.... Opium was the PROXY for Free Trade with the British and Anti Foreign Sentiment for the Chinese

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  20. Oh lordy...where do I start.

    Please, try to do away with the rhetoric and look at the facts.

    Firstly, yes there were excesses in the early years of CCP rule.

    But the overall performance in the first 30 years, in spite of these excesses, was astounding.

    A doubling of life expectancy, a dramatic reduction in mortality (relative to the record of other developing nations - even the GLF period was not exceptional).

    Life expectancy under Mao.

    Note that life expectancy even during the worst year of the GLF (1960) was better than India and Indonesia (and most developing nations of the time).

    http://tinyurl.com/3czmd3r

    At no time in the history of revolutionary China (except for perhaps 1960) were objective conditions worse than pre-1949.

    Many more people died as a proportion of the population over any consecutive four year period before 1949, than they did during the GLF.

    So it was only in 1949 that things started to trend better for the Chinese people.

    Precisely because they threw off the shackles of imperialism, and as Chairman Mao said 'stood up.'

    So please argue my facts.


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  21. The British went to war over Free Trade, not opium

    Yes. Similarly drug traffickers traffic drugs for PROFIT, for MONEY, not for drugs per se. I'm sure they would much prefer to sell mangoes if they could make similar profits.

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  22. Come on Einstein... think about it...

    Go look at a map of the British Empire in 1840s - then look at the ONLY country where Opium became a problem that led to a war ... CHINA.

    Cus, China chose Opium as the proxy to rid itself of foreigners and the British obliged by using opium to force free trade upon China... so, war was on.... both of the protagonists having their own agendas over the same thing ..... opium was the proxy... could have easily been any other commodity... the British were determined to force free trade on the Chinese, and the Qing were equally determined to resist.

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  23. Me thinks you need to be "Realistic"

    I could easily say, "Well, obviously, there were "excesses" to imperialism"

    So stupid that the CCP think it can explain catastrophies away by calling them... "excesses"

    You just have a blinkered, blind faith in CCP dogma...... Saying that post 1949 was better is a bit of a no brainer, since China had been at war for so long!! DUH!

    My point is is could have been much much better if China didn't have such an incompetent, unaccountable government that prolonged their suffering and basic lives for another 30 years...

    anyways.. have to work .. good to chat..

    and you haven't insulted me once.... cool!

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  24. I want to buy stuff from your family. You don't want to sell. So I get a whole lot of drugs and try and sell to your kids in order to get my hands on the stuff I want. The drugs are a means of payment. You want to stop me doing this. So I belt you over the head with it.

    Simple as that.

    And there was a stark moral difference between the Chinese and the rapacious British epitomised by these noble words of Commissioner Lin Zexu:

    "I am told that in your own country opium smoking is forbidden under severe penalties. This means that you are aware of how harmful it is. . . . . So long as you do not take it yourselves, but continue to make it and tempt the people of China to buy it, you will be showing yourselves careful of your own lives, but careless of the lives of other people, indifferent in your greed for gain to the harm you do to others; such conduct is repugnant to human feeling and at variance with the Way of Heaven. . . . ."

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  25. Saying that post 1949 was better is a bit of a no brainer, since China had been at war for so long!!

    Now you admit. China was much worse off before 1949. And who caused the majority of those wars for well over a century? Who went in and fucked the place up? Who supported Japanese aggression against China by wanting to hand over German possessions in China to Japan as a gift for being an ally during WWI.

    Under warlords, feudalism, and foreign imperialism, the Chinese people went through massive suffering that far outweighed anything they experienced even during the worst period of revolutionary China (the GLF).

    So if the GLF was a catastrophe - which it was - for 3 or 4 years, what the heck was a full century of imperialism?

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  26. opium was the proxy... could have easily been any other commodity... the British were determined to force free trade on the Chinese

    Again this comment is so stupid as to almost defy belief. Any drug trafficker today would not bother with traffiking drugs if he could get rich by other means. Of course drugs were not forced on the Chinese with the express purpose of making the Chinese drug addicts.

    The British used the drugs to profit from. If they could have profitted without hurting anyone I'm sure they would have done so.

    That they profitted by creating tens of millions of drug addicts - they did not care in the slightest the misery their trade was causing - their attitude was no different from those who traffick in drugs today...a capital crime in many countries.

    Its like saying Al Capone is not so bad - because he only killed people to get rich, to protect his patch,,, not for the sake of killing people. But that is the case with most criminals....they want quick profit....without giving a damn about the consequences to others.

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  27. if China didn't have such an incompetent, unaccountable government that prolonged their suffering and basic lives for another 30 years...

    Prolonged their suffering?

    Absolute bs.

    China outperformed almost all other developing nations, in improving child mortality, in improving life expectancy, in improving literacy during Mao's time in power. The economic growth rate was at the world average, or slightly above.

    Life expectancy in China in 1976, the year of Mao's death, was already higher than what 'democratic' India's is today.

    Every year of the Cultural Revolution saw an almost one year gain in life expectancy for the Chinese people.

    There were incredible social and economic gains under Mao -- the facts are attested to even by mainstream Western scholars.

    In terms of sheer numbers of lives saved, Mao was probably the greatest humanitarian in history.

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  29. ok.. brainchild.. explain to me why if the British had an Empire all over the world, but opium never became a problem else where..?

    Was it that the Chinese were so stupid and easy to sell to ?

    Of course not...

    Opium was a commodity on the fringes of trade across the globe that was passed to Chinese Hongs to sell locally... Opium was a tiny percentage of trade that was being conducted across the globe by the British.

    When Commissioner Lin confiscated the Opium.. unilke what you have been told, the British neither sent ships OR defended the opium traders... They were on there own on the fringes of global trade and were not the reason why the war started. The Bristish government refused to defend or compensate the traders...

    Buoyed by his success with opium, it became hunting season on westerners in southern China and the Qing saw it as an opportunity to finally get rid of traders from China...... like i said, Opium was a proxy for getting rid of westerners

    ALL trade was shut down... westerners got killed across southern China and only then the Royal Navy came in

    The war was on... and it was to force FREE TRADE on China

    Britain's absolute adamance on free Trade started the war... China, which had to sign its first ever EQUAL treaty with any country... all other treaties had been signed by vassals... then amplified the opium factor to make it look like the wronged party, as though Britain went to defend opium.. but it didn't...

    Go take a look at your history... how many times Palmeston sent back the so called "unequal treaty" because it was full of tiny nuances that put Britain as a vassal to China... The treaty was FORCED on China so Britain and China would be on EQUAL parity as trading partners...

    Free Trade

    just like you guys exaggerate how much serfdom was in Tibet.. you also exaggerate the effects on opium in the two wars you had with Britain cus it serves your purpose as the constant victim of history...

    History of the weak...

    China really would be better to drop all that blaming and get on with it...

    every country has a shit run in history.... get over it!!

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  30. The CCP's way of looking at history is like the guy at the end of a marathon, who blames everyone else for his poor performance and just can't accept the plain fact was... he just wasn't fit enough...

    history of victims... get over it...

    The modern world has actively encouraged a strong China.. and rejoices in it...

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  31. The treaty was FORCED on China so Britain and China would be on EQUAL parity as trading partners

    Yeah. So if some African or Asian country is not happy with European agricultural subsidies because they consider them unfair (and they are), they should send their gunboats in and pound the shit out of the European country and whatever treaty signed at gunpoint would be an 'equal' treaty?

    In fact the Chinese did not want anything to do with the West. So even if you were simply forcing cotton on to us, the war would have been utterly immoral. That it was opium makes it 100 times worse.

    Its just like if I go to my neighbours house and demand he exchanges his home grown tomatoes for my eggs. Should I beat the fuck out of him - and say it is OK because it is all in the name of trade? Even then it would be so obviously wrong that only someone with a complete lack of moral perspective would fail to see so.

    How much more immoral would it be if instead of tomatoes for eggs, I forced him at gunpoint to accept injections of heroin into his kids for his tomatoes.

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  32. The CCP's way of looking at history is like the guy at the end of a marathon, who blames everyone else for his poor performance

    Your statement flies in the face of all the facts. You are long on rhetoric, short on facts.

    China has performed better than any comparable developing country.

    The Maoist period saw spectacular increases in life expectancy and literacy, which laid the foundations for Deng to work his reforms on.

    Now deny what I have just said and I will blow you out of the water with the facts.

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  33. By the way, I note with satisfaction that you have not challenged any of my facts thusfar.

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  34. Wayne your facts are amazing...

    I marvel at them... well done!

    "China has performed better than any comparable developing country"

    Isn't this my entire point throughout...? The CCP keeps whining on about how it is the victim all the time.. but it's not.. the international community has gone out of its way time and time again to help China and help it become the country that the Chinese people deserve... and that's got Fuck all to do with Mao....!!!!

    For 200years foreigners tried to introduce the modern world to China and was constantly rebuffed by xenophobic attitudes.

    It was the US who defeated the Imperialist Japanese and gave the China back to its people... then brought the CCP back into the world community after its self-imposed exile by Mao in the 70s... Every democracy has helped China to reach its potential... and all the CCP does is whine about it's how bad it's been treated, if it gets a little criticism... seriously, if the west didn't want a strong China they could throw up a Cold Wall style block on it in no time and bring China to its knees.. once more... but it doesn't want that.. for 200 years western countries have been trying to encourage China to trade... hence the First Opium War.. China should rename the Opium War.. The War of Lost Opportunity!! Instead of having 30 years of econmic miracle, you could have had 200!

    Regarding the TREATY - go read it again.. it ooozes equality... yah, the Chinese signed it under duress.. but considering that China was so utterly defeated by a handful of Brtish, the Treaty came out pretty well for China... go read it again... it's got equality of nations all over it... The British absolutely refused to accept any notion that the treaty should be unequal.. so to answer your analogy... If a small African state could forcefully impose a a treaty of equality upon a larger European state which then put them on an equal footing, I'd be well impressed with that little state.... and have no sympathy for the larger state that only wanted to deal in unequal terms...

    But, you really should go read the treaty again.... really

    as far as flying in the face of facts...

    So it's not a fact that China was occupied the Japanese, or the british or the Germans? what's your point..?

    My point is that, yeah.. loads of shit happened.. but if you spend all your time blaming everyone else, you'll never get to the real cause.. which is yourself...

    So like the marathon runner who blames people for getting in his way, not enough water, suns too hot, shoes are too tight.... all these external factors belie the fact that at the time of the race, he just wasn't good enough... meaning, China's rough patch of history ultimately lies with the Chinese... and trying to shift the blame onto opium or imperialism is just childish...

    So.. anyway... love your facts :P

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  35. China has come such a long way... yet...

    the authorities are scared of an artist...?

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-12954811

    Who designed your national iconic stadium which is infamous around the world and as symbol of modern, prosperous China

    Is the CCP crazy????

    Well, of course................. YES!

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